A new lightweight backpacking stove – the Backcountry Boiler ™

[Roleigh]

Anyone have one of these? How much does it weigh (with everything you
use to pack it in)? To boil water, this thing becomes the container for
the boiled water, so you don't need a pot, right? You just pour the
boiling water into your plastic bag and you're done. Right?

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The Backcountry Boiler ™ evolution.

Devin Montgomery’ invented and designed one of the world’s first
lightweight chimney kettles: the Backcountry Boiler ™. Chimney kettles
are not new, but the ultra-light approach is new. The product is unique
and growing in popularity. It successfully funded on Kickstarter. Click
here to read about the Backcountry Boiler ™.
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[Ronda N]

Look through 'Hiking in Finland' blogs - I think he has reviewed and
compared to other broiler and stoves.

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to pack it in)? To boil water, this thing becomes the container for the
boiled water, so you don't need a pot, right? You just pour the boiling
water into your plastic bag and you're done. Right?
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[Segraves]

Anyone have experience with the fit on Granite Gear Virga?  I haven't had very good experience trusting torso length specifications.  I wear a Large in most other packs (REI, Osprey et al) that have length measurement that would correspond to Regular in the Virga.  Are the Long measurements really that long?
 
Thanks!

Best,
 
Bill
 
 

[Cara Lin Bridgman]

I had one of the original ones--one of the first 125 made. Boiler,
neoprene sleeve, fire pan, sil-nylon sack, and lab-rat-type plug weighed
285 g(10.5 oz). You could save weight by using your bandanna or camp
towel or wool glove instead of the neoprene sleeve, by not using the
sack, and by not using or replacing the plug.

In August, I sent my boiler back for a later model that would pour
better (I'm still waiting for that). All boilers produced are supposed
to pour well. These models do sound like they're a wee bit heavier, but
they will have a lighter plug--so total weight may even be lighter.
There's also the option of a stuff sac that turns into a sleeve (too
keep from burning fingers when pouring) to replace the neoprene sleeve
and sil-nylon stuff sack. Looking at the videos and all, I decided I'd
rather go with neoprene sleeve and stuff sack. Another option (an extra
US$10 or so) is a bit of some sort of material that can let you power
the thing with alcohol--for those times when you can't find firewood.

I never fired mine up (otherwise I couldn't send it back), but I did
fill it with water and pressure test it by driving from sea level to
1500 m. It's water tight.

The boiler works exactly the same as the Kelly Kettle (I've one of
these, too). It boils water. Some people have gotten clever with bits
of metal hardware 'cloth' and made an attachment that lets you put a
small cooking pot over the volcano opening for boiling more water or
frying eggs...

Anyway, yes, the boiler boils your water. Then, all you have to do is
pour the boiling water into your plastic bag and you're done (if you
don't use a cozy for your plastic bag).

CL
who only sent hers back because she knew version 2.0 was going to be better.

Post by Roleigh
Anyone have one of these? How much does it weigh (with everything you
use to pack it in)? To boil water, this thing becomes the container for
the boiled water, so you don't need a pot, right? You just pour the
boiling water into your plastic bag and you're done. Right?
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The Backcountry Boiler ™ evolution.
Devin Montgomery’ invented and designed one of the world’s first
lightweight chimney kettles: the Backcountry Boiler ™. Chimney kettles
are not new, but the ultra-light approach is new. The product is unique
and growing in popularity. It successfully funded on Kickstarter. *Click
here to read about the Backcountry Boiler ™.
<http://www.theboilerwerks.com/about/>*

[DonL]

Right. It's something I find interesting about the Backcountry Boiler and the other (heavier) Kelly Kettle type water heater/purifiers, they do allow a hiker to eliminate a pot from their gear. How do others feel about that?
Thanks, Don L.

Post by Roleigh
To boil water, this thing becomes the container for
the boiled water, so you don't need a pot, right?
<http://www.theboilerwerks.com/about/>*

[Segraves]

If I did a lot of cooking or traveled in larger parties, I might look at it differently, but my 1.6 oz pot is also my bowl and cup, so it's no gain for me.

Cheers,

Bill

Subject: [BackpackingLight] Re: A new lightweight backpacking stove ,........ the Backcountry Boiler
Date: Sunday, March 25, 2012, 6:36 PM
Right. It's something I find
interesting about the Backcountry Boiler and the other
(heavier) Kelly Kettle type water heater/purifiers, 
they do allow a hiker to eliminate a pot from their gear.
How do others feel about that?
Thanks,  Don L.

[Dennis Phelan]

That is why I have the trail designs Caldera keg stove system that uses a
foster beer can and weighs 6.3 oz and can be made lighter by using the
gram-cracker Esbit burner instead of the alcohol burner.

Dennis

Post by DonL
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Right. It's something I find interesting about the Backcountry Boiler and
the other (heavier) Kelly Kettle type water heater/purifiers, they do allow
a hiker to eliminate a pot from their gear. How do others feel about that?
Thanks, Don L.

Post by Roleigh
To boil water, this thing becomes the container for
the boiled water, so you don't need a pot, right?
<http://www.theboilerwerks.com/about/>*

[Mark Verber]

I would image people who do freeze bag cooking and use a separate cup from
their pot this could be a win. Personally, my pot (MLD 850ml mug/pot…
perfect for me on solo trips) is used to cook in, eat out of, and then to
heat and drink my tea… so the back country boiler isn't a win for me. In
theory I like the wood burning aspect… and keeping the soot on the inside
rather than the outside of the pot would be nice when it's time to pout it
back into the pack. But I can burn wood if I switched from UL Caldera to
the UL Compact Ti-Tri Caldera Cone. The Ti-Tri + MLD 8.5 is a couple
ounces lighter then the back country boiler and more versatile. Not going
to try it, though it is a pretty cool design.

--Mark

[Cara Lin Bridgman]

Right, that IS one of the big advantages of a backcountry boiler or
kelly kettle--the soot is contained on the inside--so much less mess.

The other biggie that they work better in wind--in fact, they're
designed to be turned into the wind. All the other stoves have to be
protected from wind.

CL
who remembers her team going through four gas canisters and never
getting the water warm despite stock wind screens, umbrella wind
screens, and bodies as wind screens.

In theory I like the wood burning aspect
 and keeping the
soot on the inside rather than the outside of the pot would be nice when
it's time to pout it back into the pack.

[Jim Marco]

Yeah,
I agree with the others. I like the boil and dump design. But, I actually need something to cook with. This generally saves a bit of weight on food, soo, I still need a pot. If I have to carry a pot, I can boil water in it.
For long, high-mileage days using pre-cooked boil&dump meals, I could drop everything, 'cept a cup, spoon and some fire starters, and go for 20-30 miles per day. Looks sweet. But, again, I know it is not for me. At a 9 pound base weight, I am not really pressed to reduce it any further, right now.
My thoughts only . . .
jdm
James D. Marco
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